Time for rehab. Convulsions are a serious business. That means there was a misfiring in your brain which means damage to your gray matter. You need to tell your parents and go see a doctor. The next time you convulse, you could die. So it comes down to how much you value your own life. Or are you too scared to admit this to your rents?

Saroin420, this is me grabbing you by the shoulders and saying, "Wake Up! Don't play around with your life. This is serious! Do you honestly want to look like Uma Thurman when she O.D.'d in Pulp Fiction? Except you won't have John Travolta and Quentin Tarrentino orchestrating your incredible recovery. Do you want your parents to find you in that condition?"

Get help now before it's too late. Normal occurences with alcohol, where an individual of age has a glass of wine with a meal, is curiously absent of a convulsive experience. Run, don't walk to rehab.

im not scared at allll to talk to my parents about this kind of stuff they know what drugs ive done . i already talked to my mom about it and she definatly told me that i should know my limit. and i agree i was beeing stupid that night which really isnt like me i ussualy know my liimit.

haha rehab. this is defaintly not a rehab case, im not out geting drunk everday. although i agree convulsions are seroius but still. its just a matter of knowing my limit.



i think drinking alcohul in moderation is stupid. whats the point of it if your not getting drunk? it tastes horrible so why would you want to tourture your tastebuds like that if your not getting anything out of it ?

lol wow rehab, that seroiusly made me laugh. thanks for the advice though.

Saroin420, you're still a kid. Your brain and body are still naturally growing, and you are doing damage to that process.

You should know your limit? You're still in high school! Your limit should be no drinks at all right now, irregardless of whether you believe everybody's doing it. Recall our talk about how you want to be a trend setter; and I said, how about you be the one to go against this kind of irresponsible flow. Convulsions are a big deal, Saroin. And if it didn't worry you, then you wouldn't have posted anything. But the truth is you want somebody to put the brakes on this type of behavior for you. For all your guffawing, you actually want somebody to tell you no in this arena. You want solid boundaries. You can say things like, Well, my mom gives me the green light. But deep within you, you still felt bad about this incident; and it prompted you to post here. Also, how can you know your limit if you're in a drunken stupor? You've seen drunk people before. They are not in full control of their capacities. Even small things are difficult when you're all liquored up. Note how people sway their bodies and slur their speech when drunk, two otherwise easy controls over their actions.

Moderation topic. This really shows your age and maturity. A good cooking sherry can add a wonderful flavor to food, a good wine can complement an excellent meal. I'll break it down further. Think of mustard. One develops an acquired taste for it. No one likes mustard at the outset, but you learn what foods it tastes good on.

Mind you, I am by no means telling you to sneak into a wine tasting. And clearly you should steer away from alcohol for the rest of your life, because you are already in your tender teenage years developing an addiction.

Here's the short and long of it: alcoholics drink themselves into convulsions. You are now officially an alcoholic. You can admit it now or 20 years down the road when you have lost everything. If you were waiting for some line in the sand to tell you when you reached that merry land of alcoholism, you've crossed it. But as the saying goes, I can only lead you to water. Right now the thought that is prevalent in your head is, "That can't happen to me." Maybe you have a picture in your head of the typical smelly bum on the street corner. Sure, that's what an alcoholic looks like, not me. But, that is exactly where you're headed. Do you think that bum woke up one day and said, "Gee, I'd like to be a smelly homeless bum on the streets"? No, it was a series of decisions and the prevalent thought of "It can't happen to me, I'm not going out getting drunk every day", etc.

Saroin420, I am genuinely concerned for you. And I have no problem telling you what you don't want to hear if it will by chance save your life. You are playing with fire, and you will get burned. If 100 people do a particular act and they all have the same result, why do you believe you would be any different? Drinking onesself into convulsions is always part and parcel to a way of life that will kill you -- not might, will. Don't be fooled by the lie that "It might not happen to me". Please stop. Talk to a guidance counsellor at school. It's free and that's what they're there for.

Misscherie, ive been drinking since the age of 8, probly younger than that actualy. Yeah by now i should know my limit. I dont drink becuase everyone else is doing it i drink because i love getting drunk, i love the feeling. It makes me more open to people and less shy. I know i should learn that myself which i have grown to learn how to do but it gives me a little push and its fun. its okay to get drunk.

Drinking is apart of my heritage and culture. Im german, beer is not doubt in the picture and always will be.

Yes wine does go good with a meal i gotta agree with that.

Misscherie, when i was 14 my family told me id be an alcohic i dont need a reminder from a stranger. and ill prove you all wrong weaather you like it or not.

that whole moderation thing ussualy doesnt work for me, when i have a glass of wine i usssualy end up drinking the whole bottle my mind cant get enough of it.

alright well lemmie open up to you here maybe youll understand my situation a bit more.

first time ive been drunk i was around 8. i diddnt know what was going on but i liked it. then when i was 13 i got drunk another time, i liked it even more becuase im ussualy the shy girl and not very outgoing becuase it takes me a long time to get comfterable around people. I use alcohul to get comfterable around people fast becuase it takes me so long to actualy open up to them and be friends with them beause i have bad trust isssues. alright yeah so this does sound pretty bad now that im reading it but when your a teenager its okay to experiment with drugs and get drunk and have sex its normal actualy. im still a virgin though, i want that moment to actualy have meaning and not be one crazy drunken night and not remember who i gave it away to. but anyways id rather know what its liike to get drunk now than later in life when i have kids and be an ahclouic, that i would never want to make a kid go through it would kill me.

So misscherie, when you were younger you never got drunk? you never did drugs ? its okkay to experiemnt as long as your not trying to get so drugged up you cant even function.

Drinking since age 8. Take a step back for a moment. Does that even sound apropriate to you? My ancestors all did it. If all your ancestors jumped off a bridge, would you? This is illustrative of why we cannot base morality on individual performance or behavior. If a kid in your class cheats on a test, does that give you the green light to do it too? No, it doesn't. Bad behavior is bad behavior irregardless of whether our elders engaged in it.

So you believe that it's okay to get drunk under age and until you go into convulsions because it gives you a good feeling? Congratulations, Sarion420, you've just given an argument that would exonerate pedophiles. Diddling kids gives them a good feeling too. So is that the measurement we use when deciding whether or not something should be done, when it gives us a good "feeling"?

Look, let me peel back the layers on this onion you've unearthed. You're filling a void within you with this alcohol. You're trying to numb bad feelings with the buzz from alcohol and drugs. Classic self-medication case. You will never find the answers to your problems at the bottom of a bottle. Remember when you were little and you had one of those shape sorter toys? What happened when you tried to put a square block in a round hole? Didn't fit. You're trying to fill a God-sized hole within you with something that doesn't fit. By coming here and reading these posts about the Bible and God, you have been immersing yourself in the Living Word. Seeds have been planted within you, and there is currently a war going on inside you. God is stirring up some things in your psyche because He wants you to keep asking questions. You're continually thirsty. But thirsty for what? You've had training since you were eight that this thirst is for alcohol. But I tell you that you're thirsting for the Living Water. God is jealous over you and has marked you for great things. The turmoil going on within you now is characteristic of what happens when God is trying to get your attention. So get serious about getting rid of that pain you're feeling. Do you really want it to go away? Then quit pouring sand down your throat and drink what will actually satiate you. For all your talk of pantheism, why hasn't it saved you from your downward spiral with alcohol and drugs? Why isn't it filling you? You know why.

Misscherie, i follow spirituality, my feelings, my dreams that come to me when i sleep at night, what messages the universe has to give me. i dont follow a book with silly little stories about a red person with horns and a pointy tail and a person high and mighty living in the clouds. definatly seems silly to me. i mean hey you wanna belive that go ahead but defiantly not my cup of tea.

no matter how hard you try to convince me that the bible is suppirior and is the right way of living and can answer all my problems well id have to have some faith in it right ? that i dont. so it would never work out. me and religion is like oil and water no mater how many times you try and make it go together it wont.

yes there is a war going inside me and theres no doubt about that, i try everday to get my connection back with the universe, to feel that cconnection again. its like trying to gain your trust back with someone who you betrayed. its a process.

anyways, drinking since the age of 8, well im not sure if you can consdier beer alcohul cuae to me beer is like water, its apart of my culture. if we were in eruope noboy would care if i were drinking beer sine the age of 8 and most definatly younger beucase everyone in eroupe drinks beer at a younge age. im not saying just becuase everyone elese does i have to do it to, but its normal. its NORMAL in eroupe. yes im aware we dont live in eruope but i highly value where i come from and try and keep that, i know a lot of kids dont really care where they come from. but im proud of where i come from.

anyway, i posted this fourm to see if people could relate and give me some advice, not to get a lecture from someone whos not my mother and is trying to be.

for the reccord; my belifs have helped me out in more than a number of occasoins, i have defiantly had dreams and messages from the universe about relitives having disesaes, knowing what will happen in the future if you will. idk if you can say the same about your belifs, but thats my connection with the universe works.

also im one for learning things by myself and helping myself, i know i can get past this by myself and prove everyone else wrong who thought id be an alchoulic. pfffht yeah right like id let myself stoop that low.

Saron420, sweetheart, advice or lecturing -- however you perceive it, I am genuinely concerned for you. I'm worried that you've gotten on a crazy train that you might never get off of. If you don't believe what I'm saying, then at least go to a guidance counsellor at school and talk to him/her about your alcohol use. Don't be scared. I'm so sorry you've been burdened with so much weighted trauma. But you'll never heal from your emotional wounds by drowning them in a bottle. Cyber hugs for you too. Here's one of the few times where you will hear me use verbage out of my perspective: I believe you are worth the fuss of professionals giving their time to aid in your recovery. I believe you deserve to know a life of sobriety, unshackled to alcohol and/or drugs -- because you really are worth it. Finally, I would be devastated if I found out you had OD'd. I would go to your funeral and mourn the loss of you -- because I am your friend. You've had such a significant impact on my life, and I would hate to lose you.

awww thank you! however this is my first time in months that ive gotten drunk so its not like im going out drinking everysingle night. ive learned to help myself a lot along the years. I can actualy keep myself from wanting more and more after one drink. At one point in my life if i had a drink and i wouldnt be able to have another one id cry becuase then id know i couldnt get drunk. yeah at that point i definatly realized i had a problem. but now i think im a lot better and maybe even next year or in a few years i will learn how to fully have control over the alcohul instead of vice versa.
i also think that its more important for me to help myself than going to rehab or going to a councler becuase they might provide me with advice i dont need, this way i can help me the way i need to help me.

you should think abot a detox and or rehab center. i was in the same place only much worsea few months ago. i finally took everyones advice and went it was the best decision i ever made i am here if you need to talk more in depth about this just let me know and good luck. you already took a big step in realizing that you have a problem

thanks. but i really dont think ill be going into rehab anytime soon, i like to solve my problems by myself because then i can learn things along the way.
im glad you took everyones advice :)

GPAC! I AM SO WELL PLEASED THAT YOU FINALLY WENT! THAT'S WONDERFUL! I'm just ready to go through the roof! Cyber hugs for you!

yea i ended up shooting up meth again so i knew i needed too i have almost for months in all only slipped once. and saroin. i hope you can get through this. youll get help when you are as ready as only the dying can be. i thought the same way you did for a long time. but try your way see if it works and if not mabye then you can think about it.

aw im glad your getting help finnaly.
yeah my way all ways works for me. it did when i was depressed and it will in this case :) its just a state of mind you need to drag yourself out of.

thank you. and yea thats a big part of it. if you have any questions about addiction just ask.i wish the best for you.

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Your posts gave me a notion that you're spiritual.
im trying to find that cord that connects me to the universe.
im sorry this post isnt doing its job & helping you..
i do need guidance.
thank you, & i hope your issue is resolved.
xx

well first of all i cant help you with that because im not the one to tell you what to belive in.
however you will find the answer to that on your own, im 100% sure of it :)
its only a matter of time.

i have to say i agree with misscherie convulsions thats bad maybe you don't need rehab but you should give drinking a rest for a little while by your name i gather you smoke weed do that don't drink also agood wine with dinner is great or a beer it doesn't taste bad

actualy i dont do any drugs anymore, including weed.
and i dont drink all that much either anymore. and if i do i only drink until i get a good buzz and then im goood to go :)

The convulsions are no joke my ex had them consistently and it's most likely a mild form of epilepsy or a terrible reaction to alcohol. Please ask your doc to check out your head I've been through dozens of seizures with my ex because she wouldn't take her medication (dilantin?). You sound young but reasonable there's nothing wrong with a cocktail now and then and a glass of wine a day is even "supposed" to be good for you. As for the binge drinking I've been there and done that and as long as you're responsible (i.e no driving, get cleared by your doc for the seizures etc.) it's not all you think its cracked up to be. Take it from someone who has spent too many nights in the ER with an ex with seizures because pounding booze sounded like a good idea to her. It never was.......